How to find a girlfriend into gangbangs?

topic posted Sun, May 6, 2007 - 10:53 AM by  Unsubscribed
Just curious: how would one find a girlfriend who's curious about sex with more than one guy or girl?
Do you just state that in a personal ad?
It seems that women dismiss it if you try to be upfront about any sort of sexual proclivities that deviate from the romantic ideal...

In my admittedly limited experience, that is.

Yet it seems like an important thing to be up front about.

I still have some of the old romantic notions; I'd like to be in a relationship and all, but sexually I seem more drawn towards alternative things.
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  • << Just curious: how would one find a girlfriend who's curious about sex with more than one guy or girl?
    Do you just state that in a personal ad? >>

    I would go to the Casual Encounters section of craigslist, to start. I know that's not really where you look for a girlfriend, per se, but I've seen posts there like yours, looking for a girl(friend) that is into having sex with other guys too
  • I would second Harriet's suggestion with the possibility of adding the "alternative romance" section to my posting list. Putting something in there along the lines of what you would expect might give you some reasonable choices to pick from. For example, something like "if having a mouth full of someone's cock while I am fucking you doggy style isn't your idea of a good time, don't bother responding." or something along that line. It's hard finding a nice, sane, slut to engage in an LTR with so it might save everyone some grief by stating that right up front.

    To be honest, if I am ever to the point of posting personal ads again, that's how I am going to do it. Naughty is what does it for me and I just happen to like sluts. I feel for you, it's hard the sane, honest sluts.
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      Ok - Maybe I'll give that a try. It's free, and it sounds like a fun experiment.

      I really am sort of an old-fashioned guy in a lot of ways, just with a few exceptions.

      By the way, you have a way with words, Geekster!
      • << you have a way with words, Geekster! >>

        yeah,,,,, but I tend to take issue with the words "slut" and "naughty"

        Slut is basically a compliment these days. But I still don't like it because it comes from a time when promiscuous women were thought to be bad. And I don't like naughty either, because I don't think having alternative sex is naughty; I think it's good. I realize the term is used playfully, but I still think it carries with it an underlying negative connotation. So I don't use those terms
        • I suppose different words didn't come to mind as I was typing it, I honestly didn't put a ton of thought into it. "Slut" is a term I use for someone who doesn't fear enjoying themselves sexually or being ok with satisfying themselves. "Naughty" was used in the context of "doing something that is normally culturally taboo", not sure I have another one-word description for that (I don't like using the word "nasty" in that context) and "alternative" doesn't really convey what I was going for, it sounds a bit more clinical or sterile somehow to me.

          Now that I put some thought into it, though, the woman that I would really find exciting is the one who is a "secret slut". Not one that appears or acts "slutty" (in the conventional sense) but one who is probably a professional or average member of society who you might run into at Target or Safeway and not suspect at all that she would enjoy an occasional gang-bang or enjoy sex involving simultaneous penetration of multiple orifices. I suppose that is part of what I found so arousing in the scene my ex and I participated in. The women were perfectly average people who, for the most part, were married and who were attending with their husbands or boyfriends and getting immense enjoyment out of being the center of attention of a group of guys where were also enjoying pleasing them.

          In fact, the contrast is really exciting to me. The more reserved and typical and "all American" by outside appearance and the more "naughty" the activity engaged in (there's that word again but "alternative" didn't seem to fit there either) the more exciting I find the situation. So you have some guy who is a middle management type from some tech company with his wife who is on the PTA and maybe serves pancakes at a community breakfast on Saturday morning is enjoying a DP that evening after being fucked by three other guys earlier and everyone goes home to their life happy and satisfied ... until maybe next month when they do it again. Folks would often go out for breakfast after and we became quite friendly with each other in a social sense too.
          • And I would add that of all the ex girlfriends in my life, I remember the experiences with that particular one as the most arousing. A woman who enjoys a good gangbang and isn't afraid to fulfill that desire in a sane and responsible way is simply an appealing thing to me.
          • << The more reserved and typical and "all American" by outside appearance and the more "naughty" the activity engaged in >>

            Right. But I want a time when it's "all American" to fuck all the men on your block. I want a time when that kind of behavior is not taboo

            I realize the naughtiness of sex is often what makes it so fun, but I don't want it to be that way. I can find other ways to defy the status-quo, I don't need to be "bad" in my sex life, and I certainly don't need to pretend I'm chaste on the surface while actually being a deviant in bed. Even though I do appreciate the surprise aspect of finding out an uptight-looking chick is actually crazy behind closed doors
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              "Right. But I want a time when it's "all American" to fuck all the men on your block. I want a time when that kind of behavior is not taboo "

              Truly, it is a noble goal, and I cheer you on in your quest, good woman!

              But perhaps the words could be redefined or reclaimed in pursuit of this end, like , I guess, the example of the connotations of the word "queer" being reclaimed and rehabilitated, as it were.

              Or like that book, The Ethical Slut, which I haven't read. It seems well-regarded from what I hear, though, and seems to be changing the nuance of the word.
              • << But perhaps the words could be redefined or reclaimed in pursuit of this end, like , I guess, the example of the connotations of the word "queer" being reclaimed and rehabilitated, as it were. >>

                Food for thought. I support taking words and using them so much that their original meaning is diluted, like fag, queer, and to some extent, nigger. So to say "slut" is like these words, that by using it we make it more powerful, well, I can see your point. That's why I don't try to get people to stop using it, even though I choose not to use it myself
            • Re: How to find a girlfriend into gangbangs?

              Mon, May 14, 2007 - 8:48 PM
              <Right. But I want a time when it's "all American" to fuck all the men on your block. I want a time when that kind of behavior is not taboo>

              It doesn't stop becoming taboo until girls like you start doing it harriet....well I'll help you take the odd houses I'll take the even. ;)
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          Re: How to find a girlfriend into gangbangs?

          Mon, May 7, 2007 - 10:32 AM
          I sometimes forget that people don't like those words.
          In my last couple of relationships, "slut" was like a term of endearment, but, of course, that was because it was used in the context of the relationship that we had established, so she understood what I meant when I used the term. And she really liked it when I talked "dirty" to her, so I used it a lot.

          It's true the word once had a much more negative connotation (and still does in some places), but times change and words take on new meanings in different contexts. The language is not static. But - it is that old association that still gives words like "slut" that little undertone of suggesting something transgressive.

          I also like terms like "dirty" or "naughty", even though so much of sex is actually pretty completely innocent and natural n' stuff.
          It can be fun to play with the feeling that there's something taboo associated with some things. Though I also appreciate that so much is out in the open and accepted these days.
          • Re: How to find a girlfriend into gangbangs?

            Mon, May 7, 2007 - 10:54 AM
            Right, I wouldn't use the word "bad" because that to me casts a judgment. It says what *I* think of the activity. "Naughty" to me has a different connotation ... more along the lines of "what other people think", or "against our cultural norms", or "not what one is *supposed* to do".

            While it would be nice if society accepted "alternative sexual practices", as things stand now it doesn't. And while there are a few brave souls who would stand up and attempt to persuade people to be more accepting of less conventional sexual situations, the majority of people have a job to do, a family to raise, and rent or mortgage to pay. They are not in a position of risking their daily living in order to change society's view of gangbangs or sex of any sort involving more than 2 people in the same venue at the same time. So "naughty" isn't so much a judgment on my part as it is a description of how our culture as a whole judges it and using a different word, in my opinion, wouldn't change that judgment.

            Group sex is not a crime but it is treated by many as if it were.
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              Re: How to find a girlfriend into gangbangs?

              Tue, May 8, 2007 - 10:18 AM
              I've been thinking of this thing I read a long time ago, and I wish I could recall where I read it.
              It was some sort of collection of sexual mores from other times and places, and the part I remember is an interview with an old italian woman. She was describing a time in maybe the early 20th century, or maybe late 19th century.
              She said that there were parts of the year when men and women would work together in the fields, and that early in the morning, the women would sometimes take the men behind a row of hedges and make them come.
              She didn't go into detail about how they did it, she just said that it made the men able to concentrate on work, or maybe she said that it at least allowed the women to get something done without the men further pestering them.
              It was interesting to hear her describe it, like the men were just another type of farm animal that was tended to before it was put out to work.
              Though there must have been some taboo associated with the group sex, I didn't pick it up from her matter-of-fact description.
        • Re: How to find a girlfriend into gangbangs?

          Mon, May 14, 2007 - 8:52 PM
          There are other words out there besides slut and naughty, maybe headonist, pleasure seeker, multi-orgasmic, those just off the top of my head...I suppose it would only take a good thesaurus and some word smithing to make something fiting.
          • Re: How to find a girlfriend into gangbangs?

            Tue, May 15, 2007 - 10:14 AM
            Sure. It gets socially messy when a word like "slut" is used in the context of "hedonist" because one can be "hedonistic" in more ways than just sexual. "Slut" pretty much limits the focus to sexual hedonism. There is a disconnect in how it is intended and how it is received in some cases and I am not sure whose "fault" that might be. "Slut" as I use it isn't a pejorative, it is descriptive of someone who is generally sex-positive and isn't afraid of or doesn't attach any stigma to enjoying that aspect of their human experience. I am not one for changing words to be politically correct because I have found that over time, the old stereotypes eventually follow the new word and it becomes just as "loaded" as the old word was. It isn't the words that need changing, it's the attitudes toward the activity it describes. A slut, to me, is someone who enjoys their sexual being and isn't afraid of experiencing that pleasure. A person that simply fucks anyone without any regard to safety or other priorities in life is an irresponsible idiot, not a "slut".

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